[RocketsNW] LEUP question

Fri May 9 10:39:39 PDT 2008

Thanks Bryan,

Don't know why I didn't think of contacting Mark (he inspected my magazine
back in Nov/07).  I gave him a call and said I was good until 2009 - don't
know why I didn't get my paperwork.  I should receive it in about a week
(wasn't I told that before?).

-jeff 

-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan A. Young [mailto:foreveryoung at inlandnet.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 10:43 AM
To: 'Jeff Bennett'; Rockets at rocketsnw.com
Subject: RE: [RocketsNW] LEUP question

You probably got "dropped." Your best bet is to talk to/e-mail Mark Aguiar @
L&I (509) 324 2527.

-----Original Message-----
From: rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com [mailto:rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com]
On Behalf Of Jeff Bennett
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 7:36 AM
To: Rockets at rocketsnw.com
Subject: Re: [RocketsNW] LEUP question

FWIW,

I was reinspected by the DLI back in Nov/07.  Submitted renewl packet
(including fingerprints) back in early December.  DLI cashed my check and
STILL have yet to hear from anyone.  I phoned Renette (did I spell her name
correctly?) and she said my paperwork was on her desk - then informed me
that she was retiring and had one week left and was training someone.  She
said I would be processed in the next week or so - that was back in
February.

I don't know who to contact directly anymore.  If anyone knows for sure,
please post!

-jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com [mailto:rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com]
On Behalf Of Greg Deputy
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 6:55 PM
To: 'Bryan A. Young'; larrycolvin121 at yahoo.com; rockets at rocketsnw.com; 'Mark
Quinn'
Subject: Re: [RocketsNW] LEUP question

Not as easy as it used to be, alas.  I just got my renewal stuff for L&I and
I now have to get fingerprinted, just like ATF.   What a freaking pain...

-----Original Message-----
From: rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com [mailto:rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com]
On Behalf Of Bryan A. Young
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 2:48 PM
To: larrycolvin121 at yahoo.com; rockets at rocketsnw.com; 'Mark Quinn'
Subject: Re: [RocketsNW] LEUP question

According to my calls to Washington and my BATFE agent (Matt Grim - out of
Yakima, BTW), DOT regulations cover transportation of restricted materials,
and BATFE regulations the rest. If I remember correctly, for personal use
you can have up to 1K lbs of APCP in your personally owned vehicle.

There was complicated debate about WA state licensing at a WAC meeting. I
will say that getting a WA state explosive license was very easy and cheap
($10).
-B

-----Original Message-----
From: rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com [mailto:rockets-bounces at rocketsnw.com]
On Behalf Of Larry Colvin
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:04 PM
To: rockets at rocketsnw.com; Mark Quinn
Subject: Re: [RocketsNW] LEUP question

Mark,

You may need to have "contingent storage."  Someone else who lives near you
where you can store motors that don't get used at a launch. 

Example scenario:  You contact a vendor at his/her place of business by
phone or email and complete a purchase for an upcoming launch.  The vendor
delivers your motors to the launch site on the specified launch day(s), and
you go out and fly.  It usually takes longer than you expect to get a rocket
off the ground, and recover, and you have leftover motors after the launch.
Maybe the wind picked up too much to fly your restricted motors.  Now you
need storage.  The ATF wants to know where that is.

If you know someone who lives nearby with storage, great!  Get a letter from
them granting permission for you to store there.  The ATF inspector will
call them to verify this is OK.

Most people have found it is easier to just get their own storage magazines
and go through all the paperwork that involves, rather than burden a friend
or colleage.  But you need a good sized property to make it work.

Sorry it's so complicated.  I've had to jump through all the same hoops with
my Importer License here in Bend.  I own my magazines, but they are located
20 miles from my house/place of business at a farm owned by a friend.  And
living in Oregon is a blessing, since there are no state requirements or
regulations for sport rocketry.

It's been about a year since anything has been mentioned about the
Tripoli/NAR Vs. ATF lawsuit.  There was supposed to be a "final" decision by
the judge last July.  The dream is that all the ATF regulations for rocketry
will soon go away.  I think the fight has been ongoing for the last 8-10
yrs, so I've stopped holding my breath.  I have a little bit of hope left,
but not much.  I just renewed my license for three more years.

Larry Colvin
Low explosives Importer
Bend, OR
--- On
Wed, 5/7/08, Mark Quinn
<mkquinn at gmail.com>
wrote:
From: Mark Quinn <mkquinn at gmail.com>
Subject: [RocketsNW] LEUP question
To: rockets at rocketsnw.com
Date: Wednesday, May 7, 2008, 9:23 AM
I am filling out my application for a LEUP, and with the help of the various
helpful guides found on the net, it looks pretty straight forward. However,
I was stymied with the question about whether a state or local license or
permit was required. I don't plan to apply for storage, I just want to be
able to buy motors at the launch site. Any help with this one? I live in
Washington state. Thanks!   Mark
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